Episode 51: Martinus and Western esotericism

In this episode Mary McGovern talks to Mikael Krall about his master’s dissertation Martinus’ Spiritual Science: An Original Contribution to Western Esotericism?, which was published as a book in 2019. Krall compares Martinus’ world picture with the worldviews of three other Western esoteric philosophers: Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey and Rudolf Steiner. His aim was to see if Martinus contributes anything new to Western esotericism, and if so, what.

Krall found that Martinus did indeed make unique and original contributions to Western esotericism. On the structural level, his finding was that Martinus uses logical reasoning to a far greater extent when presenting his worldview than Blavatsky, Steiner and Bailey do in their accounts. This can perhaps fulfil the needs of secularised seekers of truth. On the content level, Martinus’ most important contribution is, according to Krall, a clear, logical and consistent theory of how experience comes about and is eternally maintained. Martinus also describes why memory is an important function of consciousness and how it is related to the body of memory, one of Martinus’ six basic energy bodies, a body not presented by the other three authors. Krall describes this function and body as being of key importance in Martinus’ worldview when he logically explains the process of involution and thereby the eternal renewal and maintenance of consciousness through spiral cycles of evolution. Another important contribution, according to Krall, is Martinus’ analysis of a living microcosmos within us and even within the food we eat. Martinus points to our moral responsibility for the well-being of these microbeings, thus widening the sphere in need of our compassion. Martinus’ analysis of sexual evolution and the transformation of the sexual poles is also seen to contribute to the understanding of consciousness and its developmental levels. Krall’s final conclusion is that Martinus’ spiritual science and world picture is an original contribution to Western esotericism.

Mikael Krall is a psychologist and psychotherapist in Gothenburg, Sweden. He is a private researcher and scholar in the field of Western esotericism.

Mikael Krall’s book is currently out of print but will be reprinted in 2024.

This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Institute, Copenhagen on 8^th October 2023.

Photo: Mary McGovern

Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.

Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: www.martinus.dk/en. Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.

Episode 50: Martinus Cosmology, logic and the problems of consciousness

This episode is produced in collaboration with the Swedish podcast Kosmologipodden. Hosts Micael Söderberg and Mary McGovern interview Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen about logic, the easy and hard problems of consciousness and about how Martinus’s world picture informs Nikolaj’s views of philosophy, science, materialism and the experience of life.

How does Martinus define logic? What does logic have to do with love? Why does consciousness exist at all? Why do we experience anything? Is our brain even necessary? These are some of the questions we take up in this episode.

Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen is a teacher with a PhD in Philosophy and an MSc in history and mathematics. In addition to teaching and communication, he does research work in the field of philosophy; he is the author of several books on philosophical topics for a wide, Danish-speaking audience including “Hvad er virkeligheden mon i virkeligheden?” (What is reality in reality?) (2016) as well as a number of scientific articles.

Nikolaj has two YouTube channels: In English: The Nature of Reality and in both English and Danish: Nikolaj Pilgaard Petersen

This podcast was recorded by Micael Söderberg and Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint on 3^rd August 2023.

Photo: Bo Edvindsson

Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.

Episode 16: Forgiveness as Science and Art

Many people find it difficult to forgive and see no logical reason for doing so. Mary McGovern interviews Karin Jansson from Sweden after she gave a lecture at the Martinus Centre entitled “Forgiveness as Science and Art”. She describes the process of forgiving with your brain and with your heart, and how it leads to a union with all life.

The idea of forgiveness is essential to Christianity, but Christ didn’t provide any logical explanation for it. Martinus points to non-forgiveness as a very heavy burden that most of us carry with us, a burden that contributes to illness and depression. His world picture helps us to understand the laws of life and why it pays to forgive.

This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 3rd August 2018.

Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.

Martinus’s literature is available online on the Martinus Institute’s website: The Martinus Institute. Here you can also find information about the international summer courses at the Martinus Centre in Klint, Denmark.

Episode 15: Art and the Art of Living

Martinus describes art as something one produces from one’s heart, not for material gain but out of the sheer joy in being creative and in expressing one’s innermost feelings, thoughts and ideas. Mary McGovern interviews Anne Külper, a Swedish dancer and choreographer with a profound interest in Martinus Cosmology. They discuss how intelligence and feeling are balanced in works of art and in the art of living.

This podcast was recorded by Mary McGovern at The Martinus Centre, Klint, Denmark on 31st July 2018.

Music composed and performed by Lars Palerius.